# North American QSO Party Contest Logs Incomplete

**URL:** <https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910>\
**Category:** Bug Reports\
**Created:** [August 18, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910 "2025-08-18T17:36:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![N3VD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/n3vd/32/24061_2.png) [@N3VD](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/N3VD)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/1 "2025-08-18T17:36:49Z")

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When I went to submit the North American QSO Party contest log, it had not included my side of the exchange, as it only had fields for the other operator’s information and there were no additional fields for my own in the log settings. The log was rejected. Will this be remedied in other contest logs?

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**Author:** ![N0WRL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/n0wrl/32/38628_2.png) [@N0WRL](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/N0WRL)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2025, 6:24pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/2 "2025-08-18T18:24:03Z")

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Hey Tess, thanks for letting us know! Don’t worry, we will get this fixed for you!

Usually there is a section for “My Exchange” here that you can fill out. Do you see this in your log?

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/americanradioclub/original/3X/4/1/419e25b577875a906bb547d9761ad194bcc29e7b.png)

Let us know and we will make support you and make sure you get the correct export file format!

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**Author:** ![K4AZE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/k4aze/32/36274_2.png) [@K4AZE](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/K4AZE)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/3 "2025-08-19T12:02:42Z")

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@N3VD Hey Tess,

Yeah you just need to set the ‘Your Exchange’ information inside your logbook as @N0WRL mentioned and then do the Cabrillo export again and it will have all the information you need. This same field will be there for all of the contests. Let me know if you have any troubles.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/americanradioclub/original/3X/0/b/0b0c8a3ff912c6ada259780ef0d2cbdbd5a78983.png)

Thanks & 73  
Brad K4AZE

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**Author:** ![N3VD](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/n3vd/32/24061_2.png) [@N3VD](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/N3VD)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/4 "2025-08-21T05:22:36Z")

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You know, I think I had this problem and a similar request to you guys before about the exchange and, no, I didn’t see it in my log till you pointed it out. It kind of blends into the page. Could you maybe put a colored box around it or even make the text red if not? I feel like that should actually be included in the Settings for the log where we set all our other custom settings. Thanks for pointing this out to me (again)!

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**Author:** ![HB9EVT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/hb9evt/32/25133_2.png) [@HB9EVT](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/HB9EVT)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/5 "2025-08-21T08:00:09Z")

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Hi James @N0WRL

I still would prefer to have it all in the same type of logging fields and in the order you need them: Both send-fields together and both rcvd-fields together.

_Callsign – – RST\_send – – Exchange\_send – – RST\_rcvd – – Exchange\_rcvd_

And all in the same right-angled shape. The extra color for _Exchange\_rcvd_ is okay. And please another color for _Exchange\_send_.

And _Exchange\_send_ is - as it is already now with _MyExchange_ - a special field: It’s a field which you set once and then it is fixed and preset. Or it’s a count-up number.

This is my **feature request** for contests in general. Please discuss it with hams who are contesting.

73 Pepe

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**Author:** ![N0WRL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/n0wrl/32/38628_2.png) [@N0WRL](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/N0WRL)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/6 "2025-08-26T13:39:32Z")

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@HB9EVT just to confirm the request here - you would like to see the “My Exchange” fields as actual fields in the logger?

My thought is that this would cause extra tabbing and clutter the logging space, especially since My Exchange doesn’t really change (with the exception of when you have a serial number).

I would love to hear you thoughts on this Pepe, and also good idea to ask some other contesters.

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**Author:** ![HB9EVT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/hb9evt/32/25133_2.png) [@HB9EVT](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/HB9EVT)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/7 "2025-08-26T14:59:49Z")

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Hi James

Thank you for taking a closer look at my suggestion.

> [@N0WRL](#):
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> My thought is that this would cause extra tabbing and clutter the logging space, especially since My Exchange doesn’t really change (with the exception of when you have a serial number).

My answer is:

- _Tabbing:_ Hopefully, it can be programmed so that this field will be skipped when tabbing.

- _Clutter the logging space:_ Unfortunately true, but that’s the price you pay for the following advantages:

**a)** Let’s take a concrete example: At the IARU HF World Championship Contest the exchange is your ITU Zone (if you aren’t a national headquarter station). If you live in the middle of USA your ITU Zone is ‘7’. So your exchange is ‘ **7** ’ respectively ‘ **59**.. **7** ’. East part of USA is ‘8’ and west part of USA is ‘6’. After hours of contesting **being already tired** , it can happen - when you have a run in direction west and you hear all the time ‘59 .. 6’ - that you get confused, no longer knowing if you should say ‘59 .. 6’ or ‘59 .. 7’. This is why I always look on my logging software, where I can read what I have to say. This protects me for making errors when I am tired. This is why I prefer to have ‘Report\_send’ ( **59** ) and ‘Exchange\_send’ ( **7** ) in a sequence.

**b)** If you are participating as club on a contest or field day, you have sometimes inexperienced contest newcomers at the station. Of course, they are closely supervised by an experienced ham, but even then it is extremely helpful for them if what they are supposed to say (“59 .. 7” or “59 NTX”) is written out in sequence.

73 Pepe

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**Author:** ![N0WRL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/n0wrl/32/38628_2.png) [@N0WRL](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/N0WRL)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 4:16pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/8 "2025-08-26T16:16:48Z")

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Ah interesting.

I see your point here - what if we just made the “My Exchange” more prominent below the logging interface?

This would solve the issue of forgetting your exchange or having a new ham need to reference it - similar to contest stations I have seen that write their exchange and tape it below their monitor.

However, I do see the added benefit you are mentioning of having it in the correct order, when it is inside the logging template itself.

Do you know of any examples of loggers that do this today as a reference, or would this be a first?

Thanks for all your attention to detail on this, it is certainly very important for contest experience.

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**Author:** ![HB9EVT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/hb9evt/32/25133_2.png) [@HB9EVT](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/HB9EVT)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/9 "2025-08-27T03:40:02Z")

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> [@N0WRL](#):
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> Do you know of any examples of loggers that do this today as a reference

Good morning James

Two examples of contest logging softwares:

**UTX Log**

 ![UTC Log](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/americanradioclub/original/3X/c/4/c4b59dc31328158cf328244fd9d7232c5723d035.png)

“59 .. 28” is the exchange I gave (‘59’ and ITU zone) and I received “59 .. 27”.

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**N1MM+ Logger**

 ![N1MM Logger](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/americanradioclub/original/3X/a/2/a216c827febdc3057590f203918801178033b171.png)

‘Snt’ + 'SentNr is the exchange I will give; ‘Rcv’ + ‘Exch’ is what I receive.

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73 Pepe

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**Author:** ![HB9EVT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/hb9evt/32/25133_2.png) [@HB9EVT](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/HB9EVT)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 4:01am UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/10 "2025-08-27T04:01:41Z")

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> [@N0WRL](#):
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> I have seen that write their exchange and tape it below their monitor.

Yes, this is the workaround. 😀  
I do this also when I have to log with a software which is not showing me my full exchange sequence (I am participating at two smaller contests where you have to use mandatory their logging tool 🙄).

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> [@N0WRL](#):
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> what if we just made the “My Exchange” more prominent

Yes … if you are showing the complete exchange sequence connected (‘59’ and ‘MyExchange’: “59 NTX”) then this also fulfills the desired purpose. But does this also work for an ascending number?

73 Pepe

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**Author:** ![K4AZE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.worldradioleague.com/k4aze/32/36274_2.png) [@K4AZE](https://community.worldradioleague.com/u/K4AZE)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 12:56pm UTC](https://community.worldradioleague.com/t/north-american-qso-party-contest-logs-incomplete/42910/11 "2025-08-27T12:56:34Z")

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@HB9EVT @N0WRL Just chiming in here, for any contests that have a serial number we do have a auto incrementing serial number field that shows with the rest of the logging fields so the user can keep track of what number they are on when making qso’s.

Thanks & 73  
Brad K4AZE
